The free floated barrel on the Long Ranger will surpass the BLR. The Henry Wisconsin long range 223 right handed rifle features a lever action, transfer bar safety and a barrel length of 20.0". With their front locking bolts, the BLR and Long Ranger are as intrinsically accurate as comparable autoloading, falling block and bolt action hunting rifles. Only the Browning's comb is fluted, a thoughtful touch. I know a couple guys that had the long rangerminute of barn was all they could muster, I just went to look. The Long Ranger safety is an automatic transfer bar mounted in the hammer face. I then cleaned the entire rifle, and tried the round again, with the exact same results. Aesthetically, both rifles attempt to combine a modern appearance with a traditional styling. The Long Rangers wood isntAAA Fancy grade, but its well figured and the model tested is at least a Fancy A grade American Walnutmaybe closer to AA. How easy (or hard) is it to clean, i.e. There is only an inconsequential $5.04 difference in their 2017 MSRPs. The field of new lever actions chambered to modern, high-intensity cartridges is very limited. I also wish that there was a way that they could lighten the trigger a bit on the lever rifles. The lever action does not have a reputation for extreme accuracy, but it depends on the rifle. I had my heart set on buying the Long Ranger in 6.5 CM and today I went to Cabelas to get one. If you need fast follow-up shots on sounders of running pigs, this rifle will do it. The Henry Long Ranger is available in four chamberings: .223 Rem/5.56 NATO, .243 Win, .308 Win, and 6.5 Creedmoor and is capable of handling everything from varmints to big game. This is to Shannon Armitage. The web site I suggest you start looking thru appears to label all their 5.56 ammo as .223 Remington ammunition, so just in case I wanted to reiterate these slight differences before suggesting you go there & then find no 5.56 NATO ammo because they call it .223 Remington. This will be # 6. All Rights Reserved, You Want a Practical Lever Gun? One of the most instantly recognizable lever-action rifles is the Savage Model 99. But 100 yard five-shot one MOA groups with factory rounds from a lever-action rifle is outstanding. they pay for shipping both ways which is really nice. Because of the transfer bar safety, the Long Ranger is safe to carry with the chamber loaded and the hammer down. Now those Xmetel bulk loads shot fine in my BCL 102 (east shit Justine) so I wondered if the seemingly picky nature or my long ranger a known issue and put their as a trap so the Henry shame clown could track me down and hit me with a fish for using crap on such a fine gun, or is it a anomaly that passed through QA, QC by mistake? This right at the top fo the BLR list when it comes to elegance. If you design a lever gun that takes 20-round AR-10 magazines, you can call it The Nonfunctional Knuckle Smasher. If I was going to use this gun from a rest most of the time, Id opt for the lowest rings I could get. But you dont leave your love even when they snuggle up and fart on you. Not everybody can afford to pay over $1,000 for a rifle. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The BLR is supplied with a wide, gold finished, aluminum alloy trigger with a grooved face. Picked up an old henry from a friend with the rear sight missing, so i called Henry to order the parts to fix it. Now to find a land owner that will allow me to hunt wild boar to start with, that would be the go for me to get into this. I looked it over very well and excellent craftsmanship never came to mind, not when comparing to the wood of other similar priced satin walnut firearms. Moving forward I have cleaned, lubricated, and hand worked this LR action a thousand times. These are completely different "feeling" guns. The 16.5- or 20-inch octagon barrel is topped with semi-buckhorn sights, though scopes are easily mounted as well. That HPR round scored a group size of 1 3/4. Join other outdoor enthusiasts who already get great content delivered right to their inbox. Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. Otherwise I really like it, my gunsmith is going to ream and polish it out for me. The BLR is more standard shape and feel of the butt stock and foregrip. Didnt have to look for a left handed bolt. The standard BLR Lightweight comes with a pistol grip stock and a Schnable fore end, but there is also a BLR Lightweight '81 model with a straight hand stock and a fore end secured by a carbine band. The Henry receiver is longer than the Browning receiver, but lightly shallower and not quite as wide. That stock includes a quality recoil pad and sling studs. Either approach is sufficiently strong, but the front locking bolt won out. I guess its the same, if you dont look after your gun, it wont look after you. I run a patch with Shooters Choice twice a day thru the bore until the green color is gone. Any gun that gives bolt accuracy that a leftie can shoot w/o having to look for a gun built specifically for left hand shooting gets a big plus in my book. With its rack and pinion bolt, hard anodized aluminum receiver, external hammer and two-piece stock, the Long Ranger inevitably invites comparison to the existing Browning BLR. In any case, the lever stroke is shorter than that of a Winchester Model 94 or Marlin 336. Both are based on a geared (rack and pinion) lever action that operates a bolt with a rotating, multi-lug head that locks into a barrel extension via cam action when the lever is closed. The receiver is made of alloy and has a caliber of 223 remington with a 5+1 capacity. 3. The lever-action is Americas unique contribution to firearms design. Others are shooters built for hard use but lacking class and unlikely to be remembered in a hundred years. More seriously, though, theres a real danger it would become hers in short order; shes a woodworker as well as a shooter. I believe that both the Lehigh Defense Company and Underwood Ammunition Company have been producing some of the most significant breakthroughs in ammunition design and loadings to date. Similarly, the BLR needs a glove loop lever. Has no tolerance for any heat. Winchester is also back, and faithful reintroductions of their classic lever guns consistently sell out. Some finishes offered in the blr are better, some not. Their price is close so I'm wondering about accuracy. But to be perfectly clear, 250 rounds went into the gun, 250 rounds went out the barrel, and all of them fired well. the Long Ranger has a much slimmer profile. We contemplated an internal hammer and tang safety but struggled with concepts for making high performance while avoiding non-traditional looks, says Imperato regarding the Long Rangers aesthetics. Being old I like lever action rifles and both of these manufactures make one chambered in 308. A notable difference is that the BLR's trigger is attached to and moves with the lever, like the long discontinued Winchester Model 88. It may not seem fair to take off anything for what amounts to a sticky bolt, but theres perfect and there isnt. Regardless Henry re-badged them and prestothe birth of a gun company. 0.6" vs. 0.3") and less angular, which gives the cocking thumb a superior platform. Its just as good, if not better than most of the bolt-action rifles in this price range. After calling Browning and being shocked by their price for re-timing the lever and bolt, he decided to try it himself. In the early 2000s Winchesters best-selling 1894 saw its first break in production. What i said was true. When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. Like all Henry firearms, the Long Ranger is "Made in America Or Not Made At All.". Bore scope showed a divet in the barrel, Henry replaced it. I have a .338 Marlin Express thats a 5 round subMOA gun. Unlike many lever-actions with stocks originally designed for iron sights that position your head too low to center your eye in a scope, the comb of the Long Ranger was designed from the start to not only look good, but also properly position your eye even when using a solid cheek weld. Manufactured in the USA, the Henry Long Ranger in .243 is drilled and tapped for scope mounts, and comes with a steel-bodied flush-fit detachable magazine (4-rounds for the .243) I took two days to do the accuracy testing, and I took whatever time it took to pull the trigger. I have owned both. Those seeking something different and even more durable will appreciate the All-Weather Big Boy with its hard chrome finish and weather-resistant black-coated stocks or the newer X-Model with tactical features like a threaded barrel, fiber optic sights, and black synthetic M-Lok stocks. I did exactly the same thing with my BLR. Lots of mention of deer and hogs here. Because customers asked for it, Henry GM Andy Wickstrom said, simply enough. Sometimes a fast second shot saves the day! Subjectively, at least to me, operating the Long Ranger action feels a little better. Id pinch pennies for that. Unfortunately I havent been to the range with it yet either ( broken leg). It weighs 7 lbs and has an over all length of 40.5". I think they are modern classics. I shoot left handed. Wildcathunter # 14125410 09/14/19. In the world of lever-actions, there are five that reach across all categories. A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. Without a round fired, I was impressed and intrigued. Can a peep go on this without fooling around with the front sight? Mossberg reports steady sales of their 464 .30-30. The model tested wasset up for a scope. Im sure if this rifle gets customer support, other options like pistol grips and additional calibers, like the 6.5 Creedmor and 338 Federal, which arent available in a BLR will come. I might have to get this. I only tell you this because it sounds like you have an AR and thus can shoot either cartridge no problem. We will continue to do that, expand the line and be a one-stop source for anything lever. They ask for it, so I oblige. My first two shots using Hornady 165-grain SST Superformance touched, but the third shot dropped opening the group up to 1.19 inches. The typically small ejection port of most autoloading and side-ejection lever actions makes getting a cartridge into the chamber difficult. Kept the Henry. Although this comparison is based on short action, blued steel, solid frame carbines chambered for .308 Winchester, the BLR Lightweight is also available with a long (.30-06 length) action and in stainless, rather than blued, steel. My hunting partner commented on the glare to me. The stock is a american walnut wood and the metal is finished in blued. The BLR safety system requires the shooter to draw the hammer back to a "quarter cock" position. The on surprise was the recoil. And in my opinion, it deserves to be. 6.5 Creedmoor: nothing beats 120 GMX Superformance in short action. If anything, its better. Henrys already adding machine capacityto meet booming demand. I wonder though. Now Henry has entered the magazine-loaded lever gun fray. Im curious as to how it compares to the BLR, functionally, because I have a BLR in 7mm-08. Of course, these are different rifles from different manufacturers that are made in different countries and none of their parts are interchangeable. The key to this is a rotating head, multiple-lug, recessed face bolt that locks into the barrel breech when the bolt is cycled into battery. They have been outstanding leaders in this field for many years now. check out the. You can do it with the Midwest Industries Marlin MLOK handguard, one of the Henry X lever guns, a Henry Long Ranger, even a Mare's Leg though like the Tac-14 vs. a Remington 870 it's not going to be as effective as a Henry Big Boy X Model or Big Boy Steel Side Gate. The Big Horn Armory M89 Spike Driver, chambered to .500 S&W, is another big-bore lever action. Had it in 243 WIN and topped it off with a Redfield 4X. There are way too many reviews showing ejection issues and poor triggers. Much appreciated. If youre looking for a brush gun or intend to shoot 200 yards or less and want iron sights, Henrys similar lever-action in .30-30 Win. Magnums come with 24" barrels. 2023 Grand View Outdoors All Rights Reserved With a five-round detachable box magazine, the BLR made it safe and easy to chamber the rifles for pointed or tipped projectiles, opening the door to heavier magnum rounds, including some of the WSMs. 3. The Nylon 66, a relatively inexpensive rimfire with faux woodgrain, was the first successful synthetic-stock firearm. Wow thats expensive, Ill buy 2 bolt guns instead Also, most Savage 99s and all Winchester 88s (and Sako Finnbears) can be easily rechambered, rebored, or rebarreled to the big family of .308-based cartridges, including .260 Remington, 7mm-08, .338 Federal, and .358 Winchester. I wont buy a long Ranger, not at a $900 price tag. Remington's Nylon 66 semi-automatic .22 LR rifles have grown from 1950s bargain buys to 21st century collectors darlings. Gear & Gadgets on the Texas Fishing and Outdoors Show, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Ive lost a good 1911, a very nice Henry lever gun, and have been convinced to convert her AR to wooden furniture. Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know. However, long action calibers (.270 Win. I thought it would be cool to have a more modern caliber in a lever action rifle. So, is there a market for a BLR with no iron sights, that costs more? Henry is coming out with a single shot that looks really nice for On the other hand, I find the Browning's high gloss wood and metal finish considerably more attractive than the Henry's understated matte receiver and satin stock finish. In Ca. Accuracy * * * * * Cases always cleared the action if the gun was held perfectly upright. Such things as the difference in trigger pulls and stock fit may make one or the other easier for an individual shooter to shoot accurately under field conditions (practical accuracy). Oh and and can I rent the clown, I think some of my fellow Canadians at xmetal need a Bass slap for tarnishing our reputation of being the only country no one is scared of or worse confirming it by making ammo while drinking Labatt 50. Their cartridges loaded with this .223 caliber 62 grain Controlled Chaos Bullet claim an initial Muzzle Velocity of around 3100 fps and Muzzle Energy of 1323 ft lbs. Posts: 1,128. tn. I am reasonably familiar with both rifles, having used and reviewed both of them. I stand by the old rule of 1X per 100 yards for hunting rifles. Keep in mind that there are no flies on the .308 Winchester (or the old .300 Savage). The magazine release button is located in the right side of the receiver, also reminiscent (but less intrusive) of the detachable magazine versions of the Model 99. My Henry just got back from the shop as I sent it in to get the lever adjusted. Ultimately, seeing and thus hitting the target is more important than what youre hitting it with. The Long Rangerships with one magazine (Id certainly buy another). The Long Ranger doesnt have anexternal safety. Reliability * * * * 9/10th Henry rifles are great, everything about them is nicely done- except for the loading (but thats my own personal preference). For me, aquality scope in fixed four or six power will suffice in magnification for hunting, and likely be more durable than Illever need. Ive never had much interest in their other items. The LR with irons definitely has my interest, but Im hoping they eventually come out with a pistol grip (personal preference) so I can better compare the two myself, particularly with feel/trigger/smoothness of action. I would consider none of these a 300-yard shooter. It seemed a little soft, but had no creep or overtravel to speak of. The lever throw of both rifles is less than 90 degrees. As Marlin comes back into full production, I hope they try again, but above .30-30 and below the big bores, current options are few. Extra magazines are available from the manufacturer. (Not exactly hunting conditions.) Again I love it. Down here in Georgia, hunting with freedom to choose your fire arm in relative freedom is a sacred thing. At only seven lbs, with a 20 barrel, this really is a walk-all-day and shoot-all-day rifle. Give a Gift was chosen. Henry has flush fitting magazines and looks better in my opinion but neither really have that lever rifle look to them. It looks good, but maybe not Henry-ish enough. Of all of them even remotely in this price range, only one, the heavier and [$100]more expensive Ruger Hawkeye Predator in 6.5 Creedmor, matches the Long Rangerin out-of-the box accuracy. this is a fine gun. I shoot a lot of guns for TTAG. Next year theyll branch out to other calibers. They purchased a design from a foreign interest if memory serves. For the first 215 rounds, I didnt clean the rifle in any way. From my experience and others. Re: BLR vs. Henry Long Ranger. If you want to see how serious Imperato is about American-made, look up the Henry Made In America commercial on YouTube. Both are excellent rifles, but only the Henry is built in the USA, if that is It just comes down to personal preference. The Long Ranger hammer has a longer travel and requires noticeably less effort to cock. The BLR mag release is a short, recessed lever at the bottom of the receiver, directly in front of the magazine, which I find easier to use. With that construction, loads such as the .30-30 Win. The less crap you have sticking out, the less chance of your rifle getting hung up on something when working through the brush. In recent decades, the lever-action rifle has appeared to be on the ropes. The companyfigured they could make money selling a good product that customers wanted. One of the criticisms Ive seen of the Long Ranger is that while it comes ready for scope mounting, it does not come with iron sights. I like the idea of a 308 in lever action and the look of this gun. The BLR uses a slightly different design than its earlier lever predecessors, with a rack-and-pinion driven system and a trigger that travels with the lever. Id like to see a little better finishing of the metal. Nosler Accubonds have never failed me in his caliber. I really like the blr, Ive shot them, Ive hunted with them and they are great guns. Almost forgot theres also two action lengths . Well browning had made the BLR in 358 and I think they still do. Yeah, me too. Looks good though. While most lever-actions are fed by internal magazines, the Browning BLR made magazine-fed lever guns a legit contender. I've also been wanting to buy a more modern .30 caliber gun. Sold it after just a few months. is a no-brainer. The gunmakers brain trustdecided to chamberthe Long Rangerinthe three most requested calibers: .223, .243, and .308Win. It feels exceptionally smooth. The finish was too glossy and easily destroyed in the field. [The Montana Gianni] Front sight and squeeze. Sometimes certain bullets and bores just dont get along nicely. This is so difficult to achieve that Browning admonishes BLR owners not to take the rifle apart, period. The companydidnt want to build the same gun as itscompetition, yet it had to be recognizable as a Henry. Except it is. The Long Ranger is elegant. The magazine to metal fit was excellent. With their smooth receivers and no bolt handle sticking out the side, these lever actions are more comfortable to carry in the hand, or slung over the shoulder, than a bolt action or autoloading rifle. The Long Rangers magazine fits flush into the bottom of the action. (Ifyou haventfit end caps to rifle stocks and become a neurotic nerd about it, youll never notice.) Sights are a genuine limitation, especially with many older rifles. Browning has no warranty. Try it. Most notably, the Henry's trigger is mounted in the receiver, while the BLR's is attached to the finger lever and travels with it. Its hard to imagine anything else in 308. Visually, the biggest difference between the receivers (other than the finish) is that the Browning's detachable magazine protrudes below the line of the receiver, while the Henry's detachable magazine does not. 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