Its perhaps a moot point anyway, because based on what youve told me, you now know more than I do. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know how to answer that. Mr. CORNWELL - All you can recall is that, when you. Currently he has been studying the Zodiac Killer case and writes for a website called zodiackilleridentified.com. In 1970, the TSBD and the schoolbook publishers moved out of the old 411 Elm Street building. His duties routinely brought him in contact with all station people, and in particular with operational agents. Your interest in the work of our Committee is appreciated. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Are you saying, then, that the cash disbursement files as a matter of routine would be periodically destoryed? I am sorry. The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir; I think I had good performance reviews right up to the time that I left. Mr. WILCOTT - I doubt it, sir. According to Wilcott, Tokyo time of killing was approx. This book provides the first useful, in-depth analysis of the 120 phone calls by LBJ in the week following the assassination regarding such items as the Civil Rights Act, demands made by the military and similar political power plays. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, there were several other incidents that I believe could possibly be somehow connected with CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - The "need-to-know" principle was not all that we followed, and just about every one of the big projects that the agency was involved in, information leaked out, and we especially within the CIA knew about it, and someone would go to a party and have a little bit too much to drink and start saying things that they really shouldn't be saying to keep in mind what the "need-to-know" principle was. One day Frank O'Connor, the director of the program, called me into his office and he said that he had had a discussion with the public safety commissioner and that the public safety commissioner told him that my phone was bugged, that my house was under surveillance and that a Federal indictment was coming down on me at any time, that he had talked to the mayor and the mayor decided not to fire me but asked me to sign a resignation form which he would date the day previous to the date that the Federal indictment came down. At the time of the assassination, Shelley was in his sixteenth year of employment at the TSBD. In my letter to him, I praised him for his courage and expressed the hope that someday he might fill in the gaps of his story for the sake of history. Like Frazier, who was eating lunch in the basement, Oswald went to the first-floor lunchroom to eat his lunch. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, my tires were slashed and damage done to my car and I believe sugar poured in the gas tank, and whether this was actually CIA or not I have no way of knowing, and it could also have been just for harassment as a result of antiwar activities but I think there is also a possibility that it could have been attempts to intimidate me into talking about the CIA. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, does that mean you were able to check back only thirty days from the time that you were given this information? Mr. WILCOTT - The principal reason. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe that Oswald was a double agent, was sent over to the Soviet Union to do intelligence work, that the defection was phoney and it was set up and that I believe that Marina Oswald was an agent that had been recruited sometime before and was waiting their in Tokyo for Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. WILCOTT - Surely, sir. Mr. PREYER - Under our committee rules, Mr. Wilcott, a witness is entitled, at the conclusion of the questioning, to make a five-minute statement if he wishes or to give a fuller explanation of any of his answers; so that at this time we make that five minutes available to you if you care to elaborate or say anything further. Apart from the one officer who said to you that you had paid monies with respect to Oswald's cryptonym, what were the other six or seven persons' purported connection with Oswald and the Agency's relation to him. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. The mayor, Mr. Sawyer, was Dominic Casaro. Mr. WILCOTT - Generally so, I would say, at that time. I talked to reporters from various papers, and I talked to people in other forms of meetings, and to me it is not surprising at all. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Have you received a copy of the Committee's rules? At the time he visited the place, Scott Foresman was gone, and a carpet company was occupying the building. Had the seemingly insignificant trail of bread crumbs I stumbled across had not been so he avidly guarded, I might never have given it a second thought. Mr. WILCOTT - This was SNIC, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee before they became a black power group Mr. GOLDSMITH - And who made these references to Oswald being an agent of the CIA? [13], (As an aside, CIA officer William Harvey worked for Bobbs-Merrill in the last years of his life as a law editor.[14]). Mr. CORNWELL - Did they request that you leave? Insofar as I know, this information has never been made public. Considering what William Harvey wrote about creating phony 201 files for ZR/RIFLE scapegoats, an obvious first question is: How genuine is Oswald's file (or what little we have . Mary Lea Williams, a receptionist for Allyn & Bacon, said the move occurred two or three years before the assassination. Butler took over as branch manager after Leon transferred to Los Angeles. I am a reporter there. This was about, believe -- about October of 1975. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. Mr. CORNWELL - What year was that? Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? After completing the questionnaire, the two F.B.I. "[24] Lovelady must have been one of the other calm men, since, as previously noted, he made no response when Adams said that the president had been shot. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you know whether CIA Headquarters would have had either copies or originals of the cash disbursement files? It was an infantry replacement center as well as a German POW camp. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe our full strength was around XXXXXXX and we never actually had that many, I don't think. Mr. CORNWELL - However, I take it from the fact that, as you describe it, it wasn't always applied, that occasionally you did learn something about the identities of the persons or projects that the cryptonyms referred to; is that correct? at the best online prices at eBay! (Whereupon, a brief recess was taken.) Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. The CIA and the JFK Assassination. He was sickly looking, and, like his father, had lost weight. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were any of these people on your list possible subjects who made references to Oswald being a CIA agent? After failing to get anywhere, I let the matter sit for six years. This fear casting a shadow over the lives of former employees was also directed against journalists seeking to lift the veil of secrecy. Hurt initially doubted that such a large container could be moved into the building inconspicuously. He was in the military service over there, and so you feel be was a double agent who was trained while he was in the military by the CIA, and you mentioned he was given a Russian course. Mr. CORNWELL - But your testimony or your statements on the subject hadn't been made a matter of publicity on any other occasion? [26], Pierce Allman, a local newsman, later said that after he approached the TSBD, a man he recalled as Oswald near the front of the building, directed him to a phone inside.[27]. Mr. WILCOTT - Not until after I left the agency. As we shall see, this might have been designed to conceal the fact that some people working there were being harassed and bullied. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the basis for that opinion? DL 100-10461. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. I did not pay attention to this at the time. this allegation? One of said employees, her husband, and child, disappeared without a trace a few hours after granting me an interview. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. Would you tell the Committee what the "need-to-know" principle is? Thank you for your letter. [2] As we shall see, there is evidence that Oswald worked with another CIA agent in Dallas. Mr. WILCOTT - Not specifically, only generally. Mr. GOLDSMITH - You have indicated that you were not inclined to go to the Warren Commission because you were concerned about their security? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Your book. Learn more. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you wait five years? Since the CIA has the capability of engineering car crashes to look like accidents, Harriss name should be added to the list of mysterious deaths, along with Warren Commission witness Lee Bowers, who died when his car ran off the road and ran into a freeway abutment. "I was standing on the triple underpass at the time and was wounded by a fragment that bounced off the pavement," Tague, now 77, told ABC News. They were co-hosts of a program called Alternative Views featuring news, interviews, and opinion pieces from a progressive point of view. I do. Mr. WILCOTT - My current one that I had on my counter. Mr. WILCOTT - Destroyed or changed. Mr. GOLDSMITH - But as a matter of routine, would the CIA cash disbursement files refer to the cryptonym of either the person or the project that is receiving funds? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, it is. Mr. WILCOTT - The response was, among quote a few people "Oh, well, I am sure he was." They appear to be members of the security staff described by Joe Bergin, Jr. Glazes letters add a further detail that they were members of the FBI. Please publish modules in offcanvas position. Prior to this time, the building was occupied by a wholesale grocery company engaged in supplying restaurants and institutions.[4] The wholesale grocery company was the John Sexton Company. Did you write it down or do anything? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. He followed environmental concerns and space exploration, and he enjoyed playing and watching sports. Mr. WILCOTT - My name is James B. Wilcott. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't remember his name now offhand. I next called John Peets, the manager of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. My testimony included numerous meetings with a man named Bill Shelly (I am no longer certain of the correct spelling of his last name.) I was on the executive committee along with doctors and lawyers and some of the most respected people in the community. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. [22] And this likely included coaxing Shelly and Lovelady into making an ersatz trip across the street to the railroad yards before their return to the TSBD, which is now when they said they saw Styles and Adams. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - From the time I left I talked at various times, especially at parties and things like that, on social occasions, with people at headquarters and with people at my station, and we would converse about it and I used to say things like, "What do you think about Oswald being connected with the CIA? Roy Truly, who started working for the book depository in 1934, took a part-time job at the North American Aviation plant in Arlington, Texas during the war years. Redemption links and eBooks cannot be resold. Joe Molina, credit manager for the book depository since 1947, worked with FBI informer William Lowery in infiltrating leftist organizations. Write to Editor@jfkfacts.org. G. Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director. Mr. CORNWELL - What routinely was done with such note pads? Also in this investigative report is information and connections on prime suspects : CIA Agent William King Harvey, CIA Agent George Joannides , CIA Agent David Altee Phillips and the confessions of CIA agent David Sanchez Morals and E Howard Hunt. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was he a CIA employee? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why has it been difficult? [13] Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1985), pp. This is an indication that the covert side of the schoolbook business had shifted to the Scott Foresman and Southwestern building, perhaps because the notoriety of the TSBD had hampered its ability to conduct smuggling operations and thus had to be discontinued. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. Then, as time Went on, I began to hear more things in that line. Mr. SCHAAP - For the record, I have made a list of all of these spellings of the names which have been mentioned, which I will give to the stenographer so that he will have, them correctly. Mr. CORNWELL - Perhaps I can rephrase the question and get more pointedly what I need without running into the problem that you see. The incident occurred in about 1969. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Can you give the Committee the names of any persons who might corroborate your allegation? Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? Then in 2009 I read and reviewed James Douglass's masterpiece, JFK and the Unspeakable, and my traumatic memories of 1963 and after came flooding back in full force. However, the woman became terrified at the mention of it & said she would deny she ever said it if I tried to publicize the incident. Mr. SAWYER - Now, did the XXXXXXX station have any jurisdiction over the Russian operation or within the Soviet Union? Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would your Counsel identify himself for the recorder? [18] Carolyn Walther, 24H522; Edwards, 24H207; Fischer, 24H208. He asked that a copy of the letter be sent to his homenot to the business addressand after he read it, he would check into it. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. Mr. WILCOTT - George Breen was a person in Registry, who was my closest friend while I was in XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. Mr. WILCOTT - XXXXXXXXXXXX George Breen, Ed Luck, and. Mr. WILCOTT - Not publicly. [6] Interviews of Joe Bergin, Jr. February 12 and 26, 1994 and August 7, 1999. . Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir. Enclosed is a copy of the response from G. Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director of the Select Committee on Assassinations. When I interviewed him, he was living alone with his three cats, depending for his income on the charity of his father and disability checks. Mr. SAWYER - What did he do -- anything? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Kennedy Assassination Committee. I have some information concerning the assassination of President John Kennedy that I wish to submit for your scrutiny. He kept his pocket calendars from his years of employment, and he noted when the grocery company moved out of the building to a new facility in another part of Dallas. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Could you give an example of that? Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that opinion? It seems to me that I recall jotting it on a little pad. I was scared until the Carter Administration. In the work that Oliver Stone has done for his upcoming four-part documentary series on the JFK case, he uncovered information that Truly was not being paid directly through the Texas School Book Depository in 1963. Mr. PREYER - Thank you. Mr. SAWYER - What was the name of the FBI agent who you think infiltrated this antiwar group? Mr. GOLDSMITH - If the agency, in fact, was run on the "need-to-know" basis, how would you account for so many people supposedly knowing that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - Especially after Kennedy's assassination, there was a great deal of very, very serious discontent with CIA, and the morale at the station had dropped considerably, and we heard some very, very bitter denunciations of CIA and the projects that they were undertaking. Years later, I found out that he moved to Austin, Texas, where he began working for the Austin American Statesman in 1979. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. Mr. GOLDSMITH - You testified that your records were only kept for thirty days, is that correct? Mr. PREYER - Well, that is the other question that I want to be very sure on. As mentioned, this woman, her husband, and young child disappeared within hours after my interview. In the mid-1970s, the band employed a ten-piece orchestra to back them up. This would include things like: (1) determining lines of fire from upper story windows, (2) planning the access and escape routes for the sniper team, (3) positioning and controlling the designated patsy as a workman inside the building, (4) fabricating evidence such as rifle, cartridges, and paper bag to implicate the patsy, (5) selecting the so-called snipers nest where the ersatz evidence would be planted. In 1992, Congress passed the President John F. 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